Ep#17 – Natural Immunisation

With so much polarised information out there about what is going on with COVID19 plaguing the planet, it can be so overwhelming as to what we “should” or “shouldn’t” be doing. 

For me at times like this I always go back to Nature. For me Mother Nature is my foundation of life. I am part of Nature and therefore choose to observe and learn from her. Our bodies are Nature and heal themselves, so what can we learn at this time about “immunising” ourselves. 

I explore my current opinion on what I feel is the best way moving forward by talking about what our immune system actually does and how we can help to strengthen it.

Book I discuss is called “Eat Dirt!” By Dr Josh Axe https://amzn.to/3flsYWV

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Episode 17: Natural Immunisation 

Welcome to Thriving with Nature, a podcast that gives you the tools you need to live a modern lifestyle that helps regenerate our planet. And now your host, Hayley Weatherburn. 

Hello Thrivers and welcome back. Welcome to the podcast. I’m so grateful that you’re here and just blessed to feel that I can share my thought downloads, what I’m reading and what I’m researching. And as some of you know, I’m really passionate about how the body can heal itself naturally, how nature itself is part of us. We are nature. And if we align with the force of nature, we will live a healthy, strong, happy life in my opinion. 

Something I’m reading at the moment is by Dr. Josh Axe called Eat Dirt!. And I want to talk today about the immune system. Obviously right now in the world, there’s a lot of conversations, opinions, ideas about COVID-19, about vaccines, about all sorts of things. And I don’t like to just believe what I hear straight away or whether it’s from news, whether it’s from articles. I like to look at both sides, look at what’s coming in. And because I truly believe that humans have the same intention. Everyone wants to be happy and healthy. They want their loved ones to be safe. And we come to the conclusions and ideas and opinions through our own filters, through our own ideas. And so I do like to refer back to science or back to nature is probably my highest place to go to to see what’s going on in the world and how we can thrive, how we can get through this in a happy, healthy way. 

And I’m reading a book called Eat Dirt! by Dr. Josh Axe and I find it very interesting that there’s a very strong connection between our immune system and our microbiome, the microbes that are in our gut that are in our system, in our whole entire body, even on the skin. And so, I just want to read you a little excerpt here that’s talking about immunizations. I’m just going to read this part here. 

“The immune system is activated by exposure to certain microbes. And let me backtrack for a second. Your innate immune system helps you recover from acute injury such as sprained ankles and acute infections such as the common cold. The adaptive immune system functions more like a bloodhound or a police dog. It remembers a scent or in this case, a pathogen, from prior exposure is able to identify it quickly the next time around. This immune system is activated by exposure to certain microbes. When you come into contact with a virus, your adaptive immunity remembers the bug and is able to figure it out quickly at the next exposure and deal with it in an efficient manner. The immune system is activated by immunizations. Oftentimes in today’s society, when we hear the word immunization, we immediately think of the flu shot or vaccine. We see them as the only way to be immunized. But natural immunizations have been around much longer since we developed this adaptive immunity in fact. When you’re exposed to a beneficial microbe from local pollen, for example, your adaptive immunity remembers and is able to figure it out quickly at the next exposure. That’s why micro exposures to pollen from local honey or walks into your house help your immune system remember that particular kind of pollen so it doesn’t overreact come allergy season. In the same way when pathogens make their way through the tight junctions in the intestinal lining, the adaptive immune system creates antibodies to neutralize them. When they develop some memory of those bad microbes to ensure a quick response if you’re ever exposed to them again.”

So much comes up for me when I read that because right now what we’re doing in the world is hiding away from the normal massive exposure of microbes that we would be getting by shaking someone’s hand, by walking around on the beach, by driving around, by going to different environments, by covering our mask and we’re only breathing in our own microbiome. And so, something that recently happened for me was I’ve stopped using the sterilization because and if I have used it, I often come home and put my hands in the worm farm or probably my light shape the worm nutrients and the new compost so that I can get some beneficial microbes back onto my skin.

In my last episode I talked about hayfever and how I’d been struggling with the rice pollen recently. I’m currently building up my immune system by having some kefir. I’ve tried some goat milk kefir. I’m currently having coconut kefir and I’ll alternate and I’m also making sure I have some coconut yogurt. But on top of that, I’m having the bee pollen from a local area and mixing a couple of local honeys into a smoothie because I want to help build up my microbiome. You see that there’s a hundred trillion gut microbes. Like when you get all our microbes together, it weighs about the same as the brain. And these microbes, I see these as little tiny army people all over on the outside and inside of our body. And they’re the ones that can recognize and we need a good balance. According to this book, we need 85 to 15% good bacteria to bad bacteria. So, it’s 85% good, 15% bad, and you need that balance. You need that a little bit of a micro exposure to all of these kinds of things. 

And so, I find it really fascinating. I’m curious about the fact that we’re becoming very dependent on the idea of us to be fixed by a drug rather than focus on building our own immune system and therefore, preparing ourselves. And a lot of the people that are the most vulnerable right now are those with immune, not immune deficiencies. It’s at the tip of my tongue. When the word comes right past the tongue, I will think of it in a moment. But the whole idea is right now we should be doing everything in our possibility to build our immune system, to build our micro army, let’s call it and not disinfecting. The disinfectant that we use, the 99.9% kills that 85% and leaves that 1% of bad bacteria. Bad or good, either way, it’s killing 99.9% of the bacteria around that we normally have beautiful exposure to. 

So what’s going to happen? There’s a lot of evidence that comes out showing that the more sterile our environment, you become more sensitive to what’s going on out in the world rather than having a balance. So rather than using the disinfectants and all those kinds of things, yes, in a surgery environment, when you’re being opened up, you don’t want to be exposed to certain things. There are good places to have this idea of sterilization. However, what will help build your immune system is making sure you’re getting at massive diversity or exposure to a diverse array of microbes. 

That’s the first step is getting out in nature and breathing in. Dr. Zach Bush, MD talks about, I love his Insta-stories when he talks about the microbiome, breathe in microbiome. So get out in nature as much as you can and breathe. And without a mask, breathing in the new areas. Touch the plants because on the plants there’s a microbiome. Get in and start building your garden because of the soil microbes. 

In fact, Dr. Josh Axe, in his book Eat Dirt!, talks about let’s literally eat dirt. Let me quote him here. 

“As we’ve discussed, soil-based organisms support gut health and immune response. Why exactly? In the plant world, soil based organisms help plants grow. Without their protection, otherwise healthy plants become malnourished and are susceptible to disease or contamination by fungi, yeast, molds and candida. Just as plants grow best in a healthy soil teeming with highly active microorganisms, you too need these organisms to live a long, healthy life. More than 800 studies exist in the scientific literature that referenced soil-based organisms. Their common denominator is that they link soil-based organisms to successfully treating a wide variety of health conditions including allergies, asthmas, irritable bowel syndrome, ulcerative colitis, flatulence, nausea, indigestion and malabsorption, nutrient deficiency, autoimmune disease, inflammatory disease, bacterial, fungal and viral infections.” 

And he goes on about his conversation about the fact that leaky gut is connected to our immune system, to the microbes. The leaky gut causes a lot of diseases. There’s others like Dr. Mark Hyman and Zach Bush, MD. who talk about this connection of the breakdown of the gut system, our leaky gut, leading to many of the other diseases. 

And so, the best thing you can do right now is to be building a garden. And this segues nicely to what I am building is the living supplement garden. And I’m currently going to be launching this project that I would love for you all to become involved with esp. for those that really feel that this sings to you. There’s something about what I’m saying here about how we can heal ourselves naturally. Our body can heal ourselves naturally. What we need to do is support the microbes that help heal us. Just as in a garden, it’s not about raising plants. It’s about how I support the microbes who build the plants. We don’t need to do the work. We just need to nourish our microbiomes. 

So, the living supplement garden, which I’ve talked about in a few episodes here on the Thriving with Nature podcast, is about building a living supplement garden where you get your toes into the dirt you actually rinse off and wash the toxins into the garden. And the garden will read that and grow the nutrients that you need, but also the microbes that you need to protect itself. And then, you’re going to eat directly from this living supplement garden. So not only is it going to be about the nutrients, but it’s going to be about the microbes. This is the hypothesis and this is where I feel really aligned. The more I’m learning about the microbiome, about our immune system, about how we are healthy, how the soil is healthy, I’m seeing a very big correlation and this hypothesis to be true. But what I’m going to need is people like yourselves who are interested to join the journey here, with Thriving with Nature, on building the case studies of the living supplement garden.

I’ve completed the first stage of building the box. The next stage is building up the soil, which I am doing research with which to build the best. That the soil that has all the nutrients so that the microbes can actually get any of the nutrients that needs to help build the plants. And then, it will be about following the protocol. It’s extremely exciting. This living supplement garden is going to help us out there, no matter what financial situation in or how much space you have. This living supplement garden I currently am building is one meter by 80 centimeters. It’s less than a square meter. The one condition you will need is for it to get sun. That is very important that it has five to six hours of sun on it. So, that is the biggest key that you need to find a space. And then, daily you’ll be going into that garden and interacting so that you can build your microbes and it can read your microbes and that this beautiful relationship can happen. 

So, I’m very excited about this and this is a way we can do it around the world. And I want to share it around the world as much as I can so that anyone has access to this. I believe that yes, there’s supplements out there and some are probably absolutely amazing and I’ve taken supplements. But again, I felt a little bit disconnected from the synthetic-ness of it that we as humans are trying to pull what we see as pulling it apart and just giving pieces of it rather than if we just interact with the garden. There’ll be things that our scientific community hasn’t even discovered yet that will be going on through the direct interaction with nature. And that’s where I really believe, partly, it’s a leap of faith, but time will tell. 

That is my conversation for today. How do we become the best versions of ourselves during a time like this? We build our immune system. How do we build our immune system? Large exposure to microbes, a variety of microbes. So, getting out as much as you can. I know there’s limitations right now, but this is it. Don’t kill all the microbes on your body. If you’re not sure, wash your hands. And there are some essential oils you can use that can help cleanse better, which doesn’t kill the microbes, but it’ll kill any other thing. It’s melaleuca or tea tree oil with a bit of water or any kind of base like that. In that way, you’re not going to be killing the whole microbe biome, but you’re still being safe. You’re still washing your hands which they say is important, but you don’t want to kill it completely. Getting exposure to microbes, fermentations, kefirs, kombutchas, yogurts, all those types of ferments. And then, the biggest thing is also feeding those ferments. Getting the microbes in your gut, but then feeding them in. The best way to feed them is through vegetables, through fiber, fruit and vegetables. So at the moment, I’m drinking a coconut kefir and then I’m eating a massive plate of a rich variety of different greens, tomatoes, cucumbers, a bit of basil from my own garden. And I’m not washing that because I know that there’s microbes in there as well. So, you’re feeding them. You have to feed your garden of microbes inside. Build it so you have a big diversity, and then feed it constantly and that will (become) life, eat life, to feed life, to be alive. Anyway, that is my episode for this week. Thank you so much for listening. I look forward to having you on this journey. Don’t forget to hit subscribe and have a beautiful day. 

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